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It would be flat (if we assume a lot (read above)) to them not us. That does not make it flat to us. It is a false conclusion.someone234 said:@anonymousdebater
I made this exact argument before buddy. Ask @Erfisflat
when I was a Round Earther I brought this argument and his entire gang of flat earthers were so confused what I was saying,
that being said you are absolutely right and I made the wrong conclusion.
It is flat.
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Edit: Even if the rest was correct, the world would still be round to us. You would need a "higher" perspective.
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I made this exact argument before buddy. Ask @Erfisflat
when I was a Round Earther I brought this argument and his entire gang of flat earthers were so confused what I was saying,
that being said your logic is flawed bu teh conclusion is right.
It is flat.
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a 4-D being would see the shape in all its rawness but would not be able to bypass time the way a 5-D being could.
4-D being will have a sixth sense to perceive depth that isn't sight but beyond it we can't see it.
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I am so proud of this moment. Lol.
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I know EXACTLY what you are referring to and you are CORRECT BUT YOU WENT WRONG AT THE ENDING.
The 4-D being would perceive the roundness if it was there.
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We have:
Thermoception
Nociception
Chronoception
Kinaesthesia
Proprioception
Equilibrioception.
There are more but I will have to stop here.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/01/humans-have-more-than-5-senses/
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Everything has three dimensions, even a piece of paper.
Anything less than three dimensional, would not actually exist. Could not exist.
It would be really helpful if you could give a common sense explanation of your multi-dimensional theory.
Does matter require multi-dimensionality?
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Bear also in mind that to a 4-D being, not only would the Earth appear flat, but our Universe as a whole would appear flat. In this context saying that the Earth is flat would be similar to you looking at a sheet of paper and saying that a few of its atoms put together are flat: this is technically correct, but practically such a claim would not sound sensible.
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The presence of the curvature would lead to pretty interesting effects. Positive curvature (positive net energy) would essentially make our Universe into an infinitely big Black Hole, looped on itself gravitationally. And negative curvature (negative net energy) would rather make it into an infinitely big White Hole, a type of the object that is very difficult to explain in layman terms, and that on a smaller scale is very unlikely to exist.
We do not observe the effects of a non-zero curvature directly, hence we assume the curvature is absent. However, we do not know very well what effects would be observable on a reasonable scale in the first place, was the curvature to exist. It is very much possible that the curvature is small, but non-zero, and a lot of researchers try simulating such Universes numerically to see what observable predictions such a scenario would result in. It is a very young field with very-very inconclusive results, and a somewhat obscure field, but nonetheless interesting.
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